Question:
Information on the story of king Arthur?
ChaosEvermore
2010-06-15 08:24:59 UTC
Right now i just want to know about Morgana(i think that's her name if so how do you spell it?)and what was she called witch or sorceress? Anything you can give me about her would be good, like her past and what she could do.
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Jallan
2010-06-15 17:29:08 UTC
“Morgana” is the Latin form of the name of a “fay” or “sorceress'' who appears in many medieval Arthurian tales and in some non-Arthurian tales. Her name in French romances is usually “Morgain” or “Morgue”. This latter form might be the nominative form of the name and “Morgain” be the oblique form, but cases were breaking down in French at the time and they seem to be just treated as different forms of the same name, regardless of case. In Sir Thomas Malory’s English “Le Morte d’Arthur” she is called “Morgan” and this form of the name is often used by English translators for forms found in their texts.



In Geoffrey of Monmouth’s “Historia Regum Britanniae”, finished around 1136, which is the earliest surviving attempt to write a complete history of Arthur’s reign, Geoffrey ends with Arthur said to be taken away of the Island of Avalon to be healed of his wounds. Search on “isle of Avallon to be” at http://www.lib.rochester.edu/Camelot/geofhkb.htm .



In a later work by Geoffrey of Monmouth called the “Vita Merlini”, written about 1150, the island is known as the “Isle of Apples” and it is told by Taliesin that he brought the wounded Arthur there where Morgen dwelt with her eight sisters and she agreed to heal him. See http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/eng/vm/vmeng.htm and search on “Morgen”. The eight sisters are mentioned in no other medieval text.



In what is arguably the earliest surviving French Arthurian romance, written perhaps about 1160, “Erec et Enide”, Chrétien twice brings in Morgain, once mentioning in passing that Guingamor, Lord of the Isle of Avalon was her “ami” and once having Erec healed by a plaster that Morgain had given to her brother Arthur. See http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/831 and search on “Morgan”. Morgain also appears as Arthur’s sister in most later texts, but not in all of them.



Somewhere between 1167 and 1170 the writer Etienne of Rouen wrote a work today known as “Draco Normanicus” in which he summarizes Geoffrey’s original account of Arthur’s passing to Avalon but also introduces Morgana as the ruler of Avalon and claims that Morgana was Arthur's sister.



Morgain is mentioned in some Arthurian tales as ruling in Sicily on Mount Aetna, known as Mount Gibel. It may be that Sicily, being a fertile island, was considered to be the real Avalon by some Bretons who lived among the Normans who possessed Sicily. The term “Fata Morgana” is still used of a mirage sometimes seen at the Straits of Messene. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fata_Morgana_%28mirage%29 . Avalon is sometimes placed in the Mediterranean and not identified with Sicily.



In the “Story of Merlin”, attributed to Robert de Boron, the author makes out Morgain to be one of three daughters of the Duke of Tintagil whom he mentions, but makes clear that the Duke had other children as well. See http://kingarthur.wikia.com/wiki/Duke_of_Tintagel%E2%80%99s_Daughters . The name “Elaine” for one of them is only found in Malory. In the “Vulgate Merlin”, which lists five daughters, this one, the wife of King Nentres or King Neutres, is named Blasine.



As to Morgain and Guingamor: there is a romance of Guingamor in which he has a love affair with a fay and eventually leaves mortal lands to be with her. See http://www.archive.org/stream/guingamorlanvalt00mariuoft#page/xviii/mode/2up . A similar tale is told of a knight named Lanval and in this tale the king in the story is Arthur and the land of the fay is Avalon. See http://www.archive.org/stream/guingamorlanvalt00mariuoft#page/30/mode/2up . In both these tales, the Queen is the villain. The second continuation to Chrétien de Troyes' “Perceval” introduces a dead knight, named Brangamuer, the son of a certain Guingamuer and a fay named Brangepart.



In the “Prose Lancelot”, Morgain is said in her younger days to have had an affair with Guiomar, the nephew of Guenevere, until Guenevere came upon them and threatened to tell Arthur what his sister was doing unless it stopped at once. Guiomar, fearing what might happen, abandoned the pregnant Morgain, who then went off in search of Merlin whom she paid to teach her magic, which he did. Thereafter she lived as a powerful sorceress, was known by the “ignorant” as a goddess, and her son became a good knight. But she always hated Guenevere for breaking up her love affair and constantly attempted to avenge herself by telling Arthur about Guenevere’s affair with Lancelot. But events always conspired to seemingly disprove her accusations. Morgain‘s hatred of Guenevere is also referred to in the English poem “Sir Gawain and the Green Knight”.



It is suspected that this story derives from the old story of Guingamor, changed or perhaps accidentally garbled by the author or authors who sought to put Queen Guenevere more in the right and Morgain more in the wrong. (Malory brings in Sir Gringamore of Avalon (Avilion) in his story of Sir Gareth, but does not there connect him to Morgan the Fay. See http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/mart/mart144.htm .)



In the “Prose Lancelot” Morgain tries to gain Lancelot’s love.



In prose romances later than the “Prose Lancelot”, Morgain is often hostile to Arthur and all his knights. When Tristan kills her lover Hunison (Hemison), she sends a magic spear to King Mark through which Tristan gets his death wound. In the “Post-Vulgate Arthurian Cycle” and in Malory she attempts to have Arthur slain in order that she may become queen and her lover Accolon may become king. But later in that cycle Arthur and Morgain seem to be rather friendly and Arthur sends to her for advice.



In the “Post-Vulgate Arthurian Cycle” (whence also in Malory) Morgain is the wife of King Urien and the mother of his son Yvain (Uwaine). That Yvain is son of Morgain is also found in the “Lay of Tyolet”. But earlier romances do not mention this. In the “Prose Lancelot”, Yvain appears with Morgain in circumstances that don’t suggest any kin relationship and Yvain seems not to be Arthur’s nephew in that romance. Rather Yvain is first-cousin to Gawain through their fathers who were brothers. The “Vulgate Merlin” makes out Yvain to be one of Arthur’s nephews, but by another half-sister of Arthur named Brimesent, not by Morgain who is unmarried.



In medieval Welsh tradition, Owein (= Yvain) son of Urien is sometimes the son of Urien by the goddess Modron.



Morgain, in the Charlemagne story of “Huon of Bordeaux” is said to have been the paramour of Julius Caesar and the mother by him of Auberon, a King of Faërie (whence Shakespeare’s Oberon). In the late “Perceforest” romance Morgain is shown to be active in Britain in pre-Roman times.



Some attempt to connect Morgain the Fay to the Irish goddess Morríghan but those more knowledgeable than I about Celtic linguistics mostly dispute a connection between the names. And other than the names, they are not much alike.



Morgain is NOT the mother of Mordred in ANY medieval tale. That appears to be an invention of some 20th century novelists. In medieval romances, Mordred is brother or half-brother to Gawain and their mother is another sister or half-sister of Arthur, never confused with Morgain in romances where both appear. See http://kingarthur.wikia.com/wiki/Mordred . Mordred is NEVER connected to Morgain. Indeed, the only story in which Mordred even meets Morgain is in the “Post-Vulgate Quest of the Holy Grail”, in which he and his four brothers spend the night at her castle. But nothing is made of this in respect to Mordred, save that he and his brothers are all shown the paintings that Lancelot had painted when he was imprisoned by Morgain which tell the story of Lancelot’s love affair with Guenevere.



The name “Morgain” is never mentioned in medieval Welsh Arthurian tales. In the “Story of Gereint son of Erbin'' which retells Chrétien’s “Erec et Enide”, she is replaced by a male physician named Morgan Tud. In a late adaptation of the “Story of Merlin” she is given the very non-Welsh name of Dioneta. See http://www.maryjones.us/ctexts/kaledvwlch.html .



See http://www.archive.org/details/studiesinfairym00patogoog for a somewhat old scholarly book on Morgain the Fay. Like many books on medieval Arthurian tales, it contains lots of theories that are possibly true but also possibly false.
?
2016-09-21 16:36:21 UTC
You say you do not desire a 'made up fictional one.' They are all fiction, besides for those that endorse to search out a feasible truly King Arthur, who could had been a dismal a long time struggle-lord, NOT a medieval king. Merlin, Morgana and many others are all fictional additions to the legend. You do not believe there particularly had been wizards and sorceresses again then do you? The earliest Arthur tale written down could be in in Geoffrey of Monmouth's Kings of Britain, that's from the 1100's. This includes a few of the state-of-the-art factors of the tale and looks to be a combo of what used to be believed as truth in his day and folklore from older assets. For example, a few of the names within the Arthurian reports honestly hint their roots again via Welsh to Irish mythology
Larz teh Great
2010-06-15 09:06:31 UTC
Morgan le Fay is who you're referring to.

She has variously been called Morgana and Morgaine throughout the centuries but her most common modern name is Morgan le Fay (it's origins are from the Celtic "Morrigan," which was the name of a goddess of death; le Fay actually transaltes from the French meaning "the fairy").

Morgan le Fay has variously been identified as a witch, a sorceress, a fairy princess, a sea goddess, and many other designators. In the "common" Arthurian legend, she is Arthur's half-sister and later the mother to their son (and Arthur's killer) Mordred. Her roles in the stories have varied a LOT over the past 1200 years but she is always identified as a human woman with supernatural powers. In the early legends, she was originally identified as being an enchantress and healer of Avalon (the enchanted island where Arthur's body was laid to rest) but over time, she came to be portrayed as an enemy of Arthur and his court. Her most famous modern portrayal is as an enchantress who seduced Arthur into siring a child (despite knowing he was her brother) that eventually grew up to slay Arthur, thus ending the kingdom of Camelot.

As far as powers, shapeshifting seems to be the most common power but in older legends, she also had significant healing abilities as well as the ability to fly.
?
2010-06-15 09:02:54 UTC
Morgana was the half sister of King Arthur. Her mother was Igraine and her Father was Gorlois. She had two other sisters called Morgause and Elaine. The three sisters were intent on destroying King Arthur are his kingdom. The most determand was Morgana who blamed Arthur for the death of their mother. She was a witch, so could cast spells and stuff. Her sister Morgause had an affair with Arthur. They had a son called Mordred who Morgana used to kill Arthur in the end. :)
anonymous
2010-06-16 11:25:31 UTC
Morgan the faery queen and high preistess to Avalon and the goddess.

I beleive she loved Arthur and treated him as a brother, I dont beleive the lies

told about them. She healed him and will return him when its time. And she

stepped into the Lady of the Lakes shoes. She filled the position when the Lady

left to enjoy her life with Merlin. Their service was over, they deserved a reward whouldnt you agree?


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