Question:
i seriously dont get the creation story of Lord of the Rings?
Daniel
2009-04-24 12:33:18 UTC
ok so i watched the 3movies, and when i read the creation story behind LoR, it was freakin confusing. Wth is a maia, valar, ainur or any other of these things. What is this great music, does it literally mean the music we lsiten too or is it code name for something else. I read this all off of wikipedia and i still dont get it. I also want to know what time period LOTR takes place, compared to our reality's time (like was it 5000 B.C, or what, not like the time it gave in the movie and books). Are the maia etc. like gods or something, is gandalf like a middle earth jesus, what are the power rankings of the maia etc. (like which one was the most powerful, and which was second etc.) Im sorry if im asking too much because im not a huge fanatic about going in so deep about LOTR. The movie is just so good that so many questions popped up in my mind. Also how come in the movies, the humans barely had any creatures to help fight besides the ents and the eagles. The sauron's side had trolls, freakin rhinos, GIANT ELEPHANTS, DRAGONS, giant dog/hyena/lion hybrid wolves and so much more. Even though men won in the end, i still think sauron's side got the upper hand with all this help, in the battles.

yea this is all im asking, and again sorry for so many questions
Three answers:
Bill
2009-04-24 13:41:43 UTC
You should read the Silmarillion if you want to learn all this stuff. Or at least the first part of it, which is called the Ainulindale an the Valaquenta.



Yes, the "great music" is a metaphor for all the gods' powers being used in conjunction to create reality. There is one, all-powerful god named Illuvitar who created everything (at least indirectly).



The Valar and the Maiar are his "children." You can think of the Valar as gods, similar to the Greek or Norse gods, or as great spirits. The Maiar are their servants, and you can think of them as lesser spirits or angels.



The most powerful of the Valar, Melkor, became evil. He is sort of a corollary to Satan - an adversary purposefully created by God (Illuvitar).



Melkor corrupted some Maiar into evil and they became Balrogs, which are like demons. Remember the Balrog that Gandalf fought in Moria? That was a corrupted Maiar. Gandalf was also a Maiar, so you can think of him as being akin to an angel who has come to Earth at the behest of the gods. Saruman was also a Maiar. Another corrupted Maiar, and the most powerful, was Sauron.



Although its fiction, Middle Earth is supposed to be a sort of real world mythology. There is no specific time period in which the Lord of the Rings takes place, but the ages are several thousand years long each. The 4th age, which begins just after the Ring is destroyed, is supposed to be the very beginning of the modern age. So a few thousand years B.C. is not a bad guess.
V2Blast
2009-04-24 21:13:42 UTC
Go read the Silmarillion. It's confusing, but it explains most things.
Cableguy
2009-04-24 19:43:09 UTC
it is fantasy not a time period your reading the musing of the mind of Tolkien not facts


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