Question:
What exactly is the Holy Grail being mentioned by King Arthur?
mared
2009-02-22 13:01:11 UTC
What exactly is the Holy Grail being mentioned by King Arthur?
Eleven answers:
Jallan
2009-02-22 19:11:13 UTC
“Graal” is a medieval French word meaning some sort of platter. It does not appears in medieval French very often, except when talking about the “Sainte Graal", which appears in Middle English translation as the “Holy Grail".



See http://www.ancienttexts.org/library/celtic/ctexts/helindanus.html .



For an example of “graal” just meaning a normal platter, search for “grail” (which is the form used by the English translator) in http://www.ancienttexts.org/library/celtic/ctexts/lys01.html which tells the tale of Gawain and the Lady of Lys.



The “Holy Graal” first appears in Chrétien de Troyes’ “Perceval” as an object in a mysterious procession seen by Perceval in a castle. Chrétien describes it as made of gold and bearing many jewels and glowing. It is carried by a damsel and three times is carried in an out of a particular chamber, while those in the main hall are being served their food. It is followed by a lance from the head of which blood magically drips, carried by a squire. In a later passage a hermit explains to Perceval that the graal did not contain pike, lamprey, or salmon (apparently what one might expect a graal to contain), but contained a mass wafer which has alone sustained the life of a King who has lived within the chamber for 15 years, and that the King has lived on nothing else.



Chrétien presumably would have explained more, but his work is incomplete. It is generally believed that he died before completing it.



In a Welsh adaptation of this work known as the “Peredur” the word “graal” is translated as “discyl” which can be translated into English as “platter” or “salver”. See http://www.lib.rochester.edu/camelot/peredur.htm and search for “salver”.



It would seem that the word “graal” was somewhat obscure at the time. It is not surprising that knights and clerks might not be expert in the technical name of a type of tableware. Accordingly in Wolfram von Eschanbach’s “Parzival” the graal is said to be a single precious stone called “lapis exilis', brought down by the heavens by fallen angels in pre-Chrstian days, though its mysteries can only be understood by a Christian. Indeed, a pagan knight named Feirefis in this romance cannot even see the graal until he is Christened.



Later French romances explain that the grail is the vessel in which Christ performed his sacrament at his last supper, and was later used to catch his blood as he was brought down from the cross.



Some texts explicitly make this vessel to be a dish. See Malory's “Le Morte d’Arthur” where Jesus tells Galahad what the grail is. “This is,” said he, the holy dish wherein I ate the lamb on Sher-Thursday.” See http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/mart/mart426.htm .



Other texts turn the graal into a cup or chalice, presumably because the writers did not understand the meaning of the word. In the mass, wine in a chalice was a familiar feature, and holy relics were often preserved in chalice-shaped containers. Accordingly in illustrations the graal was often shown as a chalice regardless of what the text actually said.



In the “Perlesvaus” it is said that a chalice was sometimes to be seen within the graal, even when there was none, and that a chalice was the last of the five forms which the graal assumed, the other forms which are not allowed to be revealed. See http://omacl.org/Graal/branch6.html . title XIX and see http://omacl.org/Graal/branch22.html , title III/ .



As to Leonardo da Vinci’s painting of the last supper, first of all, this painting was made centuries after people had stopped writing grail stories. Second, since the Bible mentions the cup, it would be strange for such a painting not to include it. Third, Jesus is pointing to the cup with his right hand. Look at the picture. It is a glass mug with the handle turned away from the viewer. There are other glass mugs on the table.



In any case, the Holy Grail was not a mostly a cup at all in the medieval stories, but a platter of some kind.



That the graal was originally a cauldron is a suggestion of some Arthurian scholars. Others think not. Others take that idea as just one possibility.
Bunny
2009-02-22 13:08:56 UTC
The Holy Grail is the cup that Jesus Christ drank out of at the final supper. The one where he said "drink this, for this is my blood" yadda yadda yadda. It is also rumored that the cup is the same cup that one of his disciples used to catch Jesus's blood from the wound on his side when Jesus was being crucified. The Holy Grail was sought after King Arthur and the Knight's Templar because it was a hidden treasure. Those specifications, I'm not all too sure about either.

Hoped that Helped :)
Toydog16r
2009-02-22 13:07:21 UTC
The holy grail is supposedly the chalice/cup from which Jesus drank at the last supper.
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2016-10-19 07:34:10 UTC
King Arthur grew to become into initially a welsh legend yet some say he grew to become into based vaguely on some diverse historic figures...even if the story of King Arthur has been replaced many times and a good number of what grew to become into initially in the telling has been misplaced to antiquity yet possibly the important factor of the story is the archetypes in contact (the honest maiden, the sensible wizard, the valiant knight, the darkish crone, etc.) The Holy Grail is an entire separate subject be counted by making use of itself so I won't touch that one yet once you will possibly want to appreciate extra related to the legend of Arthur look up some archives on Geoffry of Monmouth who's responsible for the rewriting and retelling of of the Arthurian Legend and turning out to be the character of Merlin from the historic bard widely used as Myrddin...desire this helps
mystquester
2009-02-22 13:22:28 UTC
The grail myth existed before the coming of christianity to the British Isles it was called the cauldron of Cerridwen. A Celtic goddess associated with rebirth and renewal. In the Arthurian romance which was codified by the priest of the early church it became a cup or chalice and was called San Grael or sacred/ holy blood.
david42
2009-02-22 13:20:02 UTC
In the BIble, there is mention of a cup at the last supper. This cup is the Grail mentioned in many stories.
Elaine M
2009-02-22 13:58:50 UTC
LOL, the Last Supper painting was not made back when Jesus was alive. It's done far later, they could put anything in it. Look at the background, that is NOT the buildings that would be around when Jesus was in the area he lived in.



DaVinci painted that in the 15th century, 1500 years AFTER Jesus died. What's on the table is what he thought would be on the table, not what actually was. Heck, they probably didn't even have tablecloths or sit all on one side, right?
Wes
2009-02-22 13:05:00 UTC
The holy grail is what Jesus drank from at the Last Supper, it is considered to be sacred.
breyet_leyet
2009-02-22 13:04:59 UTC
The cup Jesus used at the Last Supper, the first cup to hold the Blood of Jesus, first sacrifice of Jesus' Blood that was drank by humans.
anonymous
2009-02-22 13:35:58 UTC
The Last Supper painting was done by Leonardo Davinci five hundred years after the fact. He had no clue how they actually ate. They actually ate while reclining on couches. Thats how far off that picture is.
FEZ- being born
2009-02-22 13:05:14 UTC
not exactly positive but I believe it is the cup Jesus drank from at the Last Supper


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